|> >" I love you" : kocham cie (Polish)
|> >" I love you" : seni seviyorum <Turkish)
|> >" I love you" : Ich liebe dich (German}
|> >" I love you" : Je t'aime (Francias)
|> >" I love you" : Ti amo (Italiano)
|> >" I love you" : I love you (English :)
|> 
|> In Arabic:
|> "I love you" :  'd-daish 7seebak bil-bank

Probably not gramatically correct --> 'd-daish 7seebak bil-bank <-- but once
I worked out what you meant it was very funny. However this kind of statement
of course would never apply to Americans :)

I suppose I could add in Moroccan (darija) the following

"I Love you" : Amerika balad diyaluk? Ana wallivtuk wa ishtaktuk

Sorry for my poor rendition, Arabic is only my second language and Moroccan
Darija is very far from even Arabic. :)
--
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Nothing said here should be construed even in the slightest to have anything
to do with my employers. I personally avow that my employers have nothing to
do with this or any other message I may send...

In article >, 
 says...
>
>
>
>On 30 Dec 1995, Cory wrote:
>
>> : I think that was very nice of you to inform Andrea Cocito of 
th
>e "Language of Love" I'm going to print that for myself.  You never know when 
yo
>u might need it. Thanks, Jennifer Ferris Blacksburg VA
>
>" I love you" : kocham cie (Polish)
>" I love you" : seni seviyorum <Turkish)
>" I love you" : Ich liebe dich (German}
>" I love you" : Je t'aime (Francias)
>" I love you" : Ti amo (Italiano)
>" I love you" : I love you (English :>

" I love you" : Je neus zit scheef (Nederlands)










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o From: 
  Subject: The "Csangos"

o From:  (Peter Kaslik)
  Subject: Request from Vojvodina

o From: 
  Subject: Re: Request from Vojvodina

o From: Tony and Celia Becker >
  Subject: HL Activities and Strength

> =============================================================================
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From: 
Subject: The "Csangos"
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Dear Colleagues,

Please find attached an exchange of letters concerning the 2-300,000 csangos,
- native Hungarians living in Moldavia on the eastern side of the
Carpathians, - and the question of what we might do for them.

I realize that some 25% of the participants on the HL-list do not speak
Hungarian and I apologize to them, for attaching two brief letters, in the
hope of initiating a discussion and through our joint effort, some help in
their cultural survival.

Best regards: Bela Liptak



Kedves Bela!

Az oslakok kontra bevandorlok kulonbseget en is "felfedeztem" magamnak,
azzal,
hogy egyelore a Trianonhoz legkozelebbi amerikai analogia, amit talaltam, az
1848-as amerikai-mexikoi haborut lezaro bekeszerzodes. De mint minden
hasonlat,
ez is tobbszorosen santit. Arra mindenesetre jo, hogy amerikaiaknak
valamelyest erzekeltesse vele az ember, hogy mit is akar mondani.

A csangok
erdekes es foleg szomoru ugy. Nem tudom, mit lehet tenni ertuk. A partok
(RMDSZ, SZDSZ, MDF stb) csak sajat partceljaikra hasznaljak oket, a sorsuk
szamukra csak addig erdekes, amig, hituk szerint, szavazatokat lehet szerezni
"a csangok megmenetesevel". Az RMDSZ-kezdemenyezte iskolaprogram, aminek
keretben mar vagy 5 eve csango gyerekeket visznek Csikszeredaba magyart
tanulni, teljesen sorsara van hagyva. Nehany megszallott tanarno (magan)ugye.
A
magyarorszagi foiskolakon tanulo csango diakok hihetelen kulturalis poklon
mennek at (de nyelvin is), teljes tudatlansag es erzeketlenseg kozepette, mar
ami az oket tanito tanarokat illeti. Az egesz "csangomentesnek" az az egyik
fo
problemaja, ami a kisebbsegi ugyeket altalaban is ovezi: nincs semmi
koncepcio,
senki soha nem gondolt semmit vegig, stb.

Na, nem akarlak tovabb riogatni.

Miklos






Kedves Miklos!

"Nincsen koncepcio, senki sem gondolt vegig semmi"- irod a csangokrol, s
persze igazad van. A mi, magunk szamara kiosztott szerepunk, feladatunk eppen
ez: vegiggondolni a dolgokat, kidolgozni a hosszutavu koncepciokat. Eppen
most dolgozom (a Magyar Zsidok Vilagszovetsegenek alelnokevel) egy tavaszi
konferencian, mely az otthoni alapkerdesekre (tartozas, ado, privativalas az
egyik oldalon, erkolcs, jog, igazsagszolgaltatas, onbecsules, kozossegi tudat
a masikon) koncentralna.

En halas lennek, ha leirnad, hogy szerinted mit is kellene tenni a csangok
dolgaban? Mi lenne a kormany, az egyhaz, a tarsadalom dolga iden, az
elkovetkezo evtizedben, s hosszu tavon? Ha ezt megfogalmazod, megkerlek, hogy
kuldjed egyenesen az HL-listara ), mert igy rajtam kivul
sokan elolvassak, s talan elindul valami. Peldaul, ha a Papa kapna a vilag
tobbszaz pontjarol hasonlo celu kerest, az tan segitene? Vagy a Duna TV, az
erdelyi lapok, radiok? Vagy nagy egyetemek nyelveszeti, ethnografiai
tanszekei, Mit gondolsz?

Boldog Ujesztendot kivanva koszont: Liptak Bela

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From:  (Peter Kaslik)
Subject: Request from Vojvodina
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Dear Friends
I have received the Appeal of the Hungarians of Vojvodina from the VMDK
 (Vajdasagi magyarok Demokratikus Kozossege) and translated it, making a few
minor changes to suit
the "Western political style" :-(
I would like your feedback on the same before distributing it.
Thank you in advance.
Peter Kaslik
Hungarian Human Rights Monitir, Toronto
E-Mail:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Appeal for the Survival  of  Ethnic Hungarian  in Vojvodina

Seventy five years ago, Vojvodina, along with its indigenous Hungarian
population has
been dispensed  to Yugoslavia, and the Hungarians of Vojvodina became a
national
minority in their own homeland.
As a consequence of the recent Balkan conflict, and due to the unchecked,
and still
ongoing Serb "quiet" ethnic cleansing, there is an imminent danger of complete
disappearance, of the indigenous Hungarian ethnic community in Vojvodina.
The present Serb government intends to settle a vast number of Serb refugees
from
Bosnia and Croatia into the still remaining Hungarian-majority populated
Municipalities
and settlement  in Vojvodina. This will inevitably lead to artificial and
forcible change of
ethnic balance of the region.
The process of settling of Serb refugees into the  Hungarian populated areas
is taking
place with the help and the financial assistance of the United Nations.
Canada/The United
States, contributes a great deal of  taxpayers money towards the activities
of the United
Nations, part of which is used to further the "quiet" ethnic cleansing
against Hungarians of
Vojvodina. Apart from being counterproductive,  unjust and immoral, this
activity of the
UN serves as source of new potential conflicts in the region.
As Canadian/American citizens, we ask the General Assembly of UN  and the
representatives of the our government the followings:
1. Put an end to the UN practices, and particularly  to the  activities of
the Commission of the UN for Refugees,
by which the Commission itself partakes in ethnic cleansing. Do not settle
Serb refugees in the Hungarian  majority
populated areas in Vojvodina with the financial assistance of the  United
Nations!
2. The reintegration of Yugoslavia as a full member of the international
community, and the ensuing financial
aid must be made conditional upon the respect for the human and minority
rights of its ethnic populations.
3. As an assurance of  lasting peace in the region, the Serb government
shall make it possible for the Hungarians
in Vojvodina to attain an autonomy that will guaranty their survival in
their ancient homeland, Vojvodina as a
distinct European ethnic community.
The present submission is prompted by our deep concern that  tomorrow, the
Hungarians of Vojvodina might
become the destitute added to  the bursting number of refugees in the region.

Name:.......................................................................
...Signature:......................................

Address:....................................................................
..........................................................

Tel:...............................................................


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From: 
Subject: Re: Request from Vojvodina
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Dear Peter,

Your material on Vojvodina is very valuable. I would respectfully suggest,
that you convert it into a ready to sign, "individualizable" form-letter and
post it on the HL list. You should provide the address also, so that all we
need to do is fill in our names, titles and send it on to the e-mail
addresses which you provide.

It might be a good idea to post this on three consecutice days, with slight
modifications each day. On the first day you might tagret Carl Bildt, the EC
negotiator for Bosnia at:    If you can find Richard
Hoolbroke's or Brutos Brutos Gali's e-mail numbers, they could be copied.

The second day you might focus on the American leaders, addressing the letter
to Clinton with copies to Dole, Gingrich and the full membership of the
foreign relations committee:
President Bill Clinton:   fax: 202-456-2461
VP Al Gore:   fax:202-456-2461
Senator Robert Dole: fax: 202-228-1245
Congressman Newton Gingrich:  fax: 202-225-4656
SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE:
Sen. Joe Biden: 
Se. Daniel P. Moynihan: 
Se. Richard Lugar: 
Se. Henry Brown:  
Sen. James Jeffords:  
Sen. Paul Sarbanes: 
Se. Christopher Dodd (CHAIRMAN of Democratic party): 
 Se. Paul Simon: 
Sen. Charles Robb: 
Sen. Larry Pressler: 
Sen. Russell Feingold: 
Sen. Paul Coverdell: 

The third day you might write the letter in a letter-to-the-editor style and
we will all send it under our names to our local papers. Lately our published
letters to the editor have multiplied drastically, and there are 3-4
locations in the country (Florida, Pennsylvania, Colorado, Washington) where
debates were initiated and are still in progress as a result. The most
interesting duel is between the Slovak and Hungarian Consuls in the Denver
papers.

The easier you make the "individualization" of these letters, the more people
will take the trouble to send them on. There will always be a dozen, who will
make the effort to write their own text and initiate their own additional
actions, but the majority is too busy for that. So, if we want hundreds of
letters, we can not ask for more than a few minutes a day, and we have to
make it very easy for our busy and tired colleauges to just insert their
names and send on the letter to the address you have given.

Thanks for your excellent effort, and I for one do promise, that I will send
on your letters, if they are received before I leave.

Best Regards: Bela Liptak

> =============================================================================
==
 
From: Tony and Celia Becker >
Subject: HL Activities and Strength
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Dear Bela and Hungarian Lobby Colleagues:

(If this letter still hasn't circulated enough, please help circulate it
further.  Hint: As the budget crisis is going--so does foreign policy; it's
all being done--or not done--by the same people with the same inconsistency
in morals and commitment throughout every aspect of their lives and actions.)

I've sent several letters to the President, VP, leaders of Congress, Stanton
Group and East Central European Groups in DC (the latter two being in person
lobbying representatives of national ethnic groups and anti-communist, etc.
groups).  Actually, I've been besides a business/professional person, a
human and civil rights activist for over 25 years.  I now have nearly four
file cabinets, and half a gig on a hard drive filled with all the
letters--and additional educational/informational materials--to politicians,
media, groups to get them to work together, etc..

This administration is the worst for ignoring letters and calls that I've
ever seen.  The preceding one was only slightly better.  The trend is worse
yet, not better. Letters alone aren't going to do anything.

WE need to hold these amoral, gutless egotists accountable--and allow fewer
of them to hold office in the first place.  WE need to make darned sure they
always know they need our votes--and not just money to bury us in
self-serving propaganda campaigns about "how wonderful they are."  The fact
of the matter is, before we can use the full potential of the U.S. to ensure
the internationally agreed upon human and civil rights elsewhere, we must
have more _real_ democracy and equality of civil and human opportunities and
rights here.

On March 5, 1995, and in April and May I invite--encourage, even strongly
urge--all East Central European Americans to take a hard look at what goes
on  in the neighborhood caucuses in Minnesota (March 5) and the County and
Congressional District caucuses in Wisconsin (April and May).  Both
political parties in these states are required by law to hold caucuses--to
which every registered voter in their parties are invited.  Without these
caucuses, no candidate can hold "official party" designation at any
_primary_, and no resolution can become a platform plank--and is not
terribly likely to become legislation, if it didn't start out a plank.

What good is it to vote for a candidate, when you have no choice in the
selection of nominees to become candidates--until they have either reached
the primaries or general elections?  By the time they reach the primaries,
the big money and the media have already made their selections and are
showering their choices with the means to make their messages more
effective.  Therefore, if people, people like East Central European
Americans, with values and goals, and concerns are to have any real impact,
they must be able to affect the elections from the very first--the first
weeks or months of the first persons who decide to run, the first ideas that
become the candidates'--and their parties--platforms in the campaign.

In a few states there are means for the people to become involved and
control their own nation's future--and their nation's relations with the
rest of the world.  The problem is, it is only a few states.  In
three-quarters of the states, the candidates--and issues--are selected by
small, largely self-appointed groups or committees, and the first choice any
large groups of voters get to make is from a selection of just a very few
elite-picked nominees at a party primary.  However, even before entering the
primary voting booth, one already knows that one of these elite-picks is
already going to be the next elected official for the associated district
office.

In the caucus states, even the party central committee members are
accountable to the entire membership of the party.  So, even if at some
higher offices some endorsements are made by party committees, the people
still have the first and last word.

So, if we truly want protection of minority rights in Romania, Slovakia,
Serbia, etc., etc., and we believe that the idea of the protection of
minority rights is a value strongly held by the majority of Americans
regardless of ethnic origin, then we need to first ensure the rights and
opportunities of the majority are protected--and promoted--first, here in
the U.S..

So, go to these caucuses, film them, audio-tape them, take notes.  Share
this knowledge quickly in all states--among all East Central European
Americans, other minority Americans, other Americans who share our
values--and the  media.  As a giant superbloc, demand that the national
parties open up in all states and make themselves "caucus" parties to be
legal--and that all primaries, even this year, be postponed until at least
the third week in JUNE to allow time for the caucuses.  Do it _now_, before
we have another four years of even less accountable, less moral, more elite
leadership both in our own country and for our world.

The majority of primaries take place before July 1.  The third Tuesday in
March is "super Tuesday."  We have two and half months.  If we really want
the protection of minority rights badly enough, we darned well will make
this nation accountable too--and first--in that amount of time...


Respectfully and sincerely,


Cecilia L. Fa'bos-Becker

N0BBS, Cecilia L. Fabos-Becker -  - San Jose, CA


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In article >, 
 says...
>
>
>
>On 30 Dec 1995, Cory wrote:
>
>> : I think that was very nice of you to inform Andrea 
Cocito of the "Language of Love" I'm going to print that for myself.  You 
never know w
>
>" I love you" : kocham cie (Polish)
>" I love you" : seni seviyorum <Turkish)
>" I love you" : Ich liebe dich (German}
>" I love you" : Je t'aime (Francias)
>" I love you" : Ti amo (Italiano)
>" I love you" : I love you (English :)

" I love you" : Come here and kiss me, bitch (Redneck Texan :)

Rob

Joe, in his infinite wisdom, had the following slip of tongue:

"There is hardly any European country that does not have some kind of
national minorities. Hungary didn't treat tham (n.b. should be 'them')
any worse than those other countries treated theirs. Proof is in their
survival with a much better sense of national identity than in many of
those countries who were so quick to judge the minority policies of
Hungary"

Fact: the Hungarians of Romania have a "much better sense of national
identity" than the Romanians of Hungary.
Conclusion, using Joe's words (see above): "Romania didn't treat them
any worse than Hungary treated its own minorities".
In other words: Romania is (or has been up to now) more democratic than
Hungary, in problems regarding national minorities.

Quod erat demonstratum.

Adrian

It's possible, but unlikely - I heard the phrase long before there was 
significant English influence (singing "Happy Birthday" is rather recent, 
and I'd wager not very common).

--
 Zoli , keeper of <http://hix.mit.edu/hungarian-faq/>;
 <'finger '> 
 NOTE: spamsters and bulk emailers see 'X-Policy*:' in the 
header for the charges to be imposed for net abuse!

On 3 Jan 1996, EvaB459762 wrote:

> It is possible that the "boldog szuletesnap" came into use by foreign,
> specifically English, influence. Don't forget that the song "Happy
> Birthday to You," is being sung nowadays in Hungary also.
> 
> Eva Balogh
> 
>

> >" I love you" : kocham cie (Polish)
> >" I love you" : seni seviyorum <Turkish)
> >" I love you" : Ich liebe dich (German}
> >" I love you" : Je t'aime (Francias)
> >" I love you" : Ti amo (Italiano)
> >" I love you" : I love you (English :>
> 
> " I love you" : Je neus zit scheef (Nederlands)

> " I love you" :  Io te volem (serbo croate)
                   Mam tie Rad (Tcheque)
                   Natondiwa (Cameroun :Douala)
                   Damalenop (Senegal : Wolof)
                   Nalinghyio (Cong, Zaire : Lingala)
                   Te quiero (Espana)

I am looking for BARTOK Bela's score titled " Seven Choruses with Orche-
stral Accompaniment" which I can't locate in Japanese music shops.
I appreciate it very much if somebody lets me know how to get it from Hun-
garian music shop or archives where said score might be held. Please con-
tact with me via E-Mail ( ) or via telecopie (+81-423-
69-0407). Thank you for your co-operation in advance.
-- 
TODA, Hiraku

Kevin Hannan > wrote:

>>Definitely, Bowlus' work is a must.

>Fortunately, our library has a copy, which I've just completed
>reading.  Well, I hardly expect Slavists to jump on the Boba
>bandwagon just because of this book!

I might not side with you on this one, Kevin :-). Those Slavists
arguing for a northern location of megale Moravia, had long ago lost a
battle in which they didn't have much saying to start with. Their
objections to Boba's thesis, never weighting significantly and already
convincingly refuted,  were not Bowlus' main concern because , as he
concluded (see p.319):

"...rejection of Boba's view has frequently been justified on the
grounds that *the Frankish sources, the most contemporary and reliable
body of evidence* [emphasize added], are incompatible with the notion
of a southern Moravia.[...] the Frankish evidence, in the opinion of
Boba's opponents, decisively places the heartland of ninth-century
Moravia approximately one hundred kilometers in the northern Morava
Valley."

This was actually the premise of Bowlus' approach, to address the core
of the arguments, extracted from contemporary Frankish chronicles,
that have been advanced against the southern Moravia hypothesis. In my
opinion, his brilliant structural analysis of Frankish sources, a
characterization to which you also apparently subscribed (see below),
gave a merciless blow to the opponents of the southern Morava
hypothesis.

>Bowlus's knowledge of the Latin  sources is impressive, but otherwise the book
 has
>numerous flaws. Let me just mention a few of them.  

>1) Bowlus is confused by the  Slavic ethnicons which he
>encounters in the various sources.  

Now, just because you think it's so it doesn't make it true. I think
the confusion is not due to  Bowlus' poor mastery of Slavic chronicles
or linguistic elements, but probably to a superficial reading of his
work :-)

>He doesn't seem to understand
>that, depending upon the author and the period, different names, e.g.
>Wend and Slav, can be used to describe the same tribal unit.

Bowlus mentioned the Wends 8 times, always, without exception, in
connection with excerpts from only two Latin sources: Annales
Xantenses (1), and Hincmar of Reims'  Annales Bertiniani (7). Although
the author of Annales Xantenses is generally vague in his reference to
the Wends, "Louis went from Saxony against the Wendi beyond the Elbe,"
by cross-checking this entry against the 864 entry in Annales
Fuldenses, Bowlus suggests that the  Wendi are not the Slavs in
general, but exactly the Moravian Slavs of of Rastislav. Annales
Bertiniani are even more simple to interpret for Bowlus because
Hincmar referred simply and directly to "Rastizem  Winidorum regulo,"
and, therefore, in this case the Wends are obviously the Moravians,
not the Slavs in general.

IMHO, on all 8 occasions Bowlus was very clear on who the Wends are or
might be. 

>Generally,
>I find his choice of terminology very distracting, e.g. "Zwentibald".

Bowlus focus being on the Frankish chronicles, it seems to me that
actually "Zwentibald" is the only proper choice. I hope I'm not wrong,
but hasn't used Reuter the same name variant in his  1991"Germany in
the Early Middle Ages?" 

>He's also not consistent in his terminology, e.g. Tisza and Tiza.  

Even if you're correct on this one, I hardly see the relevance of this
inconsistency for the subject under discussion. Anyhow, a brief check
of 10 occurrences, using the index entires, suggests Tisza as the only
spelling used by Bowlus. Do you have a page number to argue your
point? 

>2) The reader has to assume that Bowlus doesn't read any Slavic
>languages. 

Actually, the reader does not need to make that assumption because, as
you most certainly read in his Preface (p.xiv), Bowlus writes:  "While
I am confident of my ability to translate Carolingian Latin into
modern English, I recognize my limitations in dealing with Byzantine
Greek and Old Slavic." Anyhow, Bowlus' "damage-control technique" does
not mean too much, as the Slavic or Greek sources were not his main
conceren. 

> His book is based mainly on Latin sources (although he
>mentions sources in other languages). 

Yes, that was part of his premises: "Although the primary arguments in
this book rest on Latin sources, at times I have found it necessarily
to cite Passages from Greek and Slavic authors." and, most
importantly,  added "For the most part I have utilized excellent,
readily available translations of these sources, and I clearly
indicated that I have. For a crucial passage from the Old Slavic *Life
of  St.Methodius*, however, Professor  Horace G.Lunt of the Department
of Slavic Languages at Harvard University has allowed me to publish
his English translation...I thank him for his advice...He has
prevented me from making many major errors."[p.xiv]

>Concerning articles and books,
>his bibliography consists primarily of German sources.

That;'s hardly a surprise. English literature on the subject is not
that rich especially when compared to the German counterpart, most of
the primary sources where either translated initially by Germans or
analyzed by German scholars, and many Czech-Slovak and Hungarian
authors have  also published in German. Bowlus himself has published
in German. Even your Lubomir Havlick has published extensively in
German.
 
>In order to
>discuss the mission of Cyril and Methodius, for example, one needs
>a sound knowledge of OCS and at least a little linguistic training.

Maybe, but so far you and Tony have failed to mention even one sound
Slavist argument, linguistic or historical,  against a  southern
Moravian location of Methodius's diocese. 

>3) His lack of mastery of Slavic results in some significant
>omissions.  One of the main arguments, to my mind, which refutes the 
>"southern Moravia" hypothesis is the reference in the Life 
>of Methodius to the "powerful pagan prince on the Vistula." 

Really? That's very interesting because at page 196 Bowlus writes:

"In the same chapter three [from VM] there is a passage that has led
many to belive that Zwentibald succeeded in conquering southern Poland
and that Methodius and his disciples were active there. Some have even
gone so far as to assert a Slavic church organization survived in
Poland following the expulsion of Methodius's followers from Moravia
circa 885. Vincenz and Urbanczyc, however, have decisively put these
theories to rest. Schelesniker argues that supporters of the northern
Moravia hypothesis have arbitrarily decided that a certain pagan
prince resided on the Vistula. The Slavonic phrase in the VM is,
however, *in Visla,* which Schelesniker argues, *was located,
according to Byzantine sources, in Paganaia (today Hercegovina).*

Now, it may be true that Bowlus, as he has confessed,  does not have a
sound knowledge of OCS, but Schelesniker's article was published in
Anzeiger fur Slawische Philologie [19, 1989, 182-187] so let's give 
at least to this guy credit for his linguistic training in OCS :-)

>4) Reading the book, I got the impression 

Well, I guess a second reading would not hurt, just for a complete
clarification of these impressions and a full comprehending of the
finest points :-)


Regards,

Liviu Iordache

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o From:  
  Subject: Slovak Ambassador vs. NY Times

o From: Leslie Toth >
  Subject: Re: Request from Vojvodina

o From: Tony and Celia Becker >
  Subject: Re: East European lobbying groups

o From: Tony and Celia Becker >
  Subject: Re: Request from Vojvodina

o From: John Czifra >
  Subject: Michal Kovac

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From: 
Subject: Slovak Ambassador vs. NY Times
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Dear Colleagues,

The Ambassador of Slovakia, Branislav Lichardus, has made the mistake of
writing for the second time to the NY Times, this morning, giving the
impression, that only the government officials are defending the language
police and the muzzle law. This time he attacks Steve Kinzers excellent
report of December 26 and says:

"The laws adopted previously make it obvious that the citizens of minority
groups will and should retain their language."

It is of extreme importance that the NYT receive a larga number of letters
within the next 48 hours. THE ADDRESS IS: To The Editor, NYT, 229 W. 43rd
St.,NYC 10036
Fax: 212-556-3622, E-Mail: 

Everybody except the ones, whos letters have already been published (Peter
Kovalszki and I) can and should write. It would be EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to
have letters from Europe, Hungary and PARTICULARLY FROM SLOVAKIA. Please try
to do what you can. The future of the language law is at stake here. These
exchanges will determine the content of the 1996 ethnic language law and
possibly the future of the Hungarian schools.

Listed below are some points, which you might consider in your letters.
Please do not just read this note. Please do write your letter:

* The claim that language rights are guaranteed is disproved by the NYT
report, that a Slovak citizen was denied the right to send a Hungarian
language telegram at a post office.

* The language law conflicts with paragraph 34/2/b of the Slovak
constitution, which, SIMILARLY TO ALL MULTILINGUAL STATES, such as Canada,
Belgium, Switzerland, etc. guarantees the right of national communities to
use their languages in ALL OFFICIAL AND PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS.

* While historically ethnic tensions been created by new demands of the
minorities, this time the reverse is the case: state sponsored new
restrictions, are causing the tensions. It is also clear that these
government actions are coordinated with Romania and that in both countries,
their aim is to find scapegoats and thereby divert attention from the
disastrous state of their economies.

* It is in the interest of the United States to stop such trends before they
result in Bosnia-like tragedies.

* Neither of the two former prime ministers (Jozef Moravcik or Jan
Charnogursky) voted for the language law.

* The law also infringes on the Slovak population: If a language error is
comitted in a publication a $7500, if on TV/Radio a fine of $15,000 can be
levied. These fines are collected by the "Pro Slovakia" organization, which
is tied to the extreme nationalist Meciar party.

* The reason that the Slovak Government has decided to pass its second
language law , dealing with the languages of natinal communities, is because
they wanted to first judge the international response to the first. If that
second law is less brutal, we will have to thank the caring and curageous
editorials and articles in the NYT and the American press for speaking up for
the group rights of national communities.

* "The fewer languages you speak, the better Slovak you are!" is not our
view.

Dear Colleague!

Please write. Please ask your friends and colleagues to do the same. Please
alert your acquitances in Slovakia, that we have a 48-hour window of
opportunity to air our grievanves. Let us use it.

Thanks a lot: Bela Liptak


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From: Leslie Toth >
Subject: Re: Request from Vojvodina
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Peter Kaslik wrote:

> Dear Friends
> I have received the Appeal of the Hungarians of Vojvodina from the VMDK
>  (Vajdasagi magyarok Demokratikus Kozossege) and translated it, making a few
> minor changes to suit
> the "Western political style" :-(
> I would like your feedback on the same before distributing it.
> Thank you in advance.
> Peter Kaslik
> Hungarian Human Rights Monitir, Toronto
> E-Mail:
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Appeal for the Survival  of  Ethnic Hungarian  in Vojvodina
>
> Seventy five years ago, Vojvodina, along with its indigenous Hungarian
> population has
> been dispensed  to Yugoslavia, and the Hungarians of Vojvodina became a
> national
> minority in their own homeland.
> As a consequence of the recent Balkan conflict, and due to the unchecked,
> and still
> ongoing Serb "quiet" ethnic cleansing, there is an imminent danger of complet
e
> disappearance, of the indigenous Hungarian ethnic community in Vojvodina.
> The present Serb government intends to settle a vast number of Serb refugees
> from
> Bosnia and Croatia into the still remaining Hungarian-majority populated
> Municipalities
> and settlement  in Vojvodina. This will inevitably lead to artificial and
> forcible change of
> ethnic balance of the region.
> The process of settling of Serb refugees into the  Hungarian populated areas
> is taking
> place with the help and the financial assistance of the United Nations.
> Canada/The United
> States, contributes a great deal of  taxpayers money towards the activities
> of the United
> Nations, part of which is used to further the "quiet" ethnic cleansing
> against Hungarians of
> Vojvodina. Apart from being counterproductive,  unjust and immoral, this
> activity of the
> UN serves as source of new potential conflicts in the region.
> As Canadian/American citizens, we ask the General Assembly of UN  and the
> representatives of the our government the followings:
> 1. Put an end to the UN practices, and particularly  to the  activities of
> the Commission of the UN for Refugees,
> by which the Commission itself partakes in ethnic cleansing. Do not settle
> Serb refugees in the Hungarian  majority
> populated areas in Vojvodina with the financial assistance of the  United
> Nations!
> 2. The reintegration of Yugoslavia as a full member of the international
> community, and the ensuing financial
> aid must be made conditional upon the respect for the human and minority
> rights of its ethnic populations.
> 3. As an assurance of  lasting peace in the region, the Serb government
> shall make it possible for the Hungarians
> in Vojvodina to attain an autonomy that will guaranty their survival in
> their ancient homeland, Vojvodina as a
> distinct European ethnic community.
> The present submission is prompted by our deep concern that  tomorrow, the
> Hungarians of Vojvodina might
> become the destitute added to  the bursting number of refugees in the region.
>
>
Name:Leslie Toth
........................................................................
> ..Signature:..Leslie Toth....................................
>
>
Address:.41 Longhope Place
..........North York, Ont. M2J 1Y1 Canada
...........................................................
> .........................................................
>
>
Tel:.(416).493-1734............................................................
.
>
>
>
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From: Tony and Celia Becker >
Subject: Re: East European lobbying groups
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--

At 01:34 AM 1/3/96 -0500, you wrote:
>Dear Celia,
>  I read with interest your letter in the HL mailing list.  I agree with the
>content of it, but on a diffferent vein, I was wondering about the East
>European lobby groups which you mentioned in your posting.  I am an American
>of non East European descent, but I happened to have lived and worked In
>Hungary, and I am very interested in finding out about groups which lobby for
>human rights in that region.  Any info you can provide me will be
>appreciated.
>  Thank you-Shannon Morris
>
Dear Shannon:

There are two East Central European American committees of national
directors of the East Central European American organizations.  The
membership of these two overlap. Both Dr. Eugene Iwanciw of the Ukrainians
and Laszlo Pasztor of the Hungarians sit on both.  Ferenc Kozorucs sits on
one of the two.  Thus, to access both, Laszlo Pasztor, who is the only one
who maintains an office on behalf of all East Central European Americans is
the best person to approach.  Laszlo Pasztor can be reached at his office in
the organization Coalitions for America, Free Congress Foundation Building,
717-2nd. St. NE, Washington, DC 20002.  His telephone number is
202-546-3003x348.  His fax number is 202-547-0392.  He is in DC, Tuesday
through Thursday and Friday morning.  He returns home to Pennsylvania for
the extended weekend--usually driving, often amid many hazards, between the
two.  He does have an assistant who can take messages and respond to simple
issues on Mondays and Fridays and  otherwise when he is not present, and
other staff people of Coalitions for America, and some members of the
organizations who share the building and work most closely with one another
will also take messages.

Additionally, these two East Central European American committees
participate in a larger outreach group colloquially referred to as "The
Stanton Group."  They meet at the Free Congress Building, and are moderated
by Laszlo or Eugene, usually, every other Thursday morning.  The additional
members of the  Stanton group are a variety of anti-communist,
anti-dictatorship, etc. groups, such as the Vietnam Veterans, the Heritage
Foundation, etc..  Not all are conservative groups.  Most are actually
"moderate" and there are even a few regular attendees from some groups
considered "liberal."  They have periodic attendance by Chinese and Jewish
groups also.  _All_ these groups, regardless of the ethnic makeup of their
members will lobby--and have lobbied both Congress and the Administration on
behalf of East Central Europeans--especially Hungarians.  Some of the
representatives of these organizations at the meetings are themselves are
retired medium to high ranking individuals from the State and Defense
Departments.  Some are former aides to Congresspersons.  Some regular
attendees include key individuals with the most prominent "think tanks"
(e.g. Hudson and Brookings Institutes) who often testify in Congress, and
Congressional aides.  Senator Dole regularly has an aide there, and Laszlo
Pasztor, himself is a former aide to this Senator.

The Stanton group developed around the Afghan-Soviet conflict.  This was the
group that finally persuaded Congress and the President to support the
Afghan freedom fighters.  (Hungarians are considered by many Afghans to have
led this effort and we are always welcome among them in DC to this day.)
Not only did this group get the U.S. government to pledge official
support--some of the members of this group were actually involved in the
delivery of that assistance--and I don't mean just dollars to banks, either.

This group welcomes new members, attendees, requests for assistance (just
make it specific).  It could also use more volunteers to help the lobbying
legwork. For those in the Maryland, Virginia, DC area, they might
considering donating a little time and effort, or even a few funds to keep
our one and only all East Central Europe office running.  Right now, its
principal support comes from a handful of Hungarians, and some non-Hungarian
conservatives.  It's also darned hard to spend a lot of time and effort
fundraising when so much time is needed instead for lobbying--including
preparing the written materials used in the information/education effort of
lobbying.  At one end or the other there must be more assistance if we East
Central Europeans are to  be more effective.

Thanks for the request for information.  I hope this helps--us all.

Respectfully,


Cecilia L. Fa'bos-Becker, AECECC Northern California chapter.



N0BBS, Cecilia L. Fabos-Becker -  - San Jose, CA

> =============================================================================
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From: Tony and Celia Becker >
Subject: Re: Request from Vojvodina
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--

At 02:51 PM 1/2/96 -0500, you (Peter Kaslik) wrote:
>Dear Friends
>I have received the Appeal of the Hungarians of Vojvodina from the VMDK
> (Vajdasagi magyarok Demokratikus Kozossege) and translated it, making a few
>minor changes to suit
>the "Western political style" :-(
>I would like your feedback on the same before distributing it.

On 1/3/96, Bela also posted a request for assistance from the
Csangos-Hungarians of Moldavia, similar to that of the Voivodina-Hungarians.

To respond to both Bela's and Peter's (and the Voivodinan-Hungarians,
Csangos-Hungarians, etc., etc.) request for feedback:

First consider your audience.  The U.S.is a nation, in a world whose senses
and sense of moral outrage and willingness to stop what is wrong have become
dulled and worn by too many really terrible wrongs.  Contrast what is stated
in the Voivodina letter: the settlement of Serbian refugees among Hungarian
communities and Hungarian numerical and cultural dominance--not culture
itself; not human beings themselves--being wiped out; with the magnitude of
the atrocities against the Bosnian Muslims.  The situation looks petty--as
stated.  It won't be given any serious attention.  If the Csangos cannot
also reliably detail serious depradations, their cause will have limited
support, also.

What is needed by both--and any other subset of Hungarians anywhere--is to
specify the real laws, verbal and physical attacks on Hungarians, the
provincial or national proscription against practices or appearances of
Hungarian ethnicity, language or culture.  Even at this, only the worst
examples should be stated and the reader (audience) should be reminded that
these are examples--not the whole.

What is needed is also to remind readers of the 30-50,000 (reports vary) of
HUNGARIAN-VOIVODINA refugees still in Hungary up to just a few months ago,
and to demand that they be allowed to resettle in their own homes in the
Voivodina--if they haven't been yet.  If you can bring in these refugees
into the question, you can argue more legitimately that they should be
offered _first_ their choice of homes in the Voivodina to replace any that
have been destroyed, before the Serbians who took part in the destroying.
However, many of the Serbian refugees--some of whom were in Hungary and
being supported almost completely by the economically struggling Hungarian
nation for several years and thus were a drain on the Hungarian people,
there, were also fleeing the aggression of other Serbians and chose to flee
rather than take part in murdering innocent neighbors.  Should people who
fled violence and conscription for genocide against neighbors, people who
generally liked and tolerated their neighbors suffer also?

These issue need a bit more research, development and restatement.  Right
now, some are not very supportable as they are.  --Remember the boy who
called "wolf!"  Hungarians have a lot of issues right now--all related to
several nations persecuting Hungarians in varying degrees.  We need to
prioritize them better, much better.

We seem to be "whining" an awful lot to non-Hungarians.  A few have come
outright and turned this around and asked, "what the hell is the matter with
you Hungarians that you can't get along with anyone and everyone keeps
getting mad enough to want to kill you?  What are you doing that provokes
them?"  True, this is a lot like blaming the victim for rape or spousal
abuse, but when the victim continues to be a victim in repeat instances, the
courts--and public they represent--do have the right--and do exercise it, to
ask what in the blazes the victim is doing returning to abusers or selecting
relationships with abusive people, or going into situations where the victim
already knows that incidents of rape or abuse are more likely.

We could argue that Hungary is merely the continued victim of one long gang
rape, but then we had better link the instances up and show them as one.
That is instead of lobbying separately about atrocities against Hungarians
in Romania, Slovakia, Moldavia, and Serbia--we need to say simply,
"Hungarians are the new Jews of Europe who are systematically in a
coordinated fashion being wiped out by their Slavic neighbors as Jews in
Germany were killed by Germanic peoples."  We need to list the most
egregious offenses together in country subheadings in one letter.  We need
to petition for a U.S./NATO/UN solution that solves this total problem once
and for all--something different than Hitler's or Milosevic's "final
solution" for Jews and Muslims.  Perhaps what we really need to petition for
is formal autonomy for three designated Hungarian provinces within the
nations of Slovakia, Romania, and Serbia, or a scrapping of the 1919
boundaries to restore about half of Transylvania, the three lowland counties
of Slovakia, and at least half of the Voivodina to Hungary.

Heck, if they can redraw the boundaries of Yugoslavia and rearrange
Palestine continually, they can do it for Hungary, too--and we Hungarians
have a lot more right to demand the rearrangement.  The 1919 boundaries were
based on lies and propaganda developed in Britain--notably by the group of
colonialist, world conquest minded politicians/aristocrats called the "Crewe
House."  They bragged about the artificial nationalist movements and lies
about Hungarian abuses they had created.  They lied in accusing us of
starting World War--and history has proved the lies time and again.  The
World War I French documents discovered by the Mitterand government in 1988
were only the latest exposure of the lies.  We were robbed and the robbery
is still going on, despite the exposure of the robbers.

If the Hungarians, everywhere, and the Hungarian lobby wants to fight for a
permanent end to the oppression of all Hungarians equally and demand either
autonomy or reunification with Hungary, great!  You will have my support.
However, it disperses and weakens too much time, effort, money,--and human
resources to constantly, repeatedly confront what is really the same issue
in different dress--piecemeal.  There's another old saying that is also
true: United we stand, divided we fall"--Benjamin Franklin in the 1770's and
Abraham Lincoln in the 1860's...

Thank you for your attention.  I look forward to the response.


Respectfully,


Cecilia L. Fa'bos-Becker





N0BBS, Cecilia L. Fabos-Becker -  - San Jose, CA

> =============================================================================
==
 
From: John Czifra >
Subject: Michal Kovac
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--

Buek,

Something that strikes me as interesting is the OMRI report on the Slovak
president's address on New Year's Day. He "called on the coalition to be
tolerant of its critics". He said,"Suppressing critics, calling them traitors
or enemies, is considered the first step to a totalitarian regime". Kovac
called 1995 a "year of political retaliation".

Well, folks, it seems that Kovac (is it possible that he has some Magyar in
him, with that name?) is pretty sympathetic to the situation at hand.
Considering the fact that we (those of us who weren't chicken shit) bombarded
his fax machine with pleas not to sign that ridiculous language law, it's seems
that he's maybe starting to see things in a more realistic light and not in
this pompous jack-ass "get over it" or "wait till we're in the EU" line of
thinking that many preach on this list. If 1995 was the year of "political
retaliation", as Michal Kovac put it, then 1996, hopefully, will be the year of
POLITICAL CHANGE. This can only be done so by each and everyone on this list
and anyone with enough common sense to see that this Meciar is not all that
he's cracked up to be and is certainly not someone we'd like to deal with.

Don't believe me??

Well maybe this will change your minds:

Here is a double edged statement made by Vladimir Meciar made in Congress on
April 6th 1995 (right after the bilateral agreement was signed):

I quote,".....In a short time, a control of the teaching of the Slovak language
in Hungarian schools in the Slovak Republic will be implemented, and also
controlled, how they (the Hungarians) teach the love of the country....."

Now tell me that this is the kind of thinking that deserves an open door to the
EU?? I think not, folks.
So, basically, any kind of minority autonomy can only be established by the
concord of the majority, expressed by the Parliment's (whether it be Romania's
or Slovakia's) "for" vote of majoritarian deputies. It doesn't take a rocket
scientist to figure out in Romania and in Slovakia the majority will is not for
Hungarian cultural, educational, spiritual, or territorial autonomy, as
expressed by the current language law.

All I've got to say is: WAKE UP folks!!! Wake up!!!!

Udv,
Czifra Jancsi
john_czifra @ shi.com

"Had there not been a magnificent toughness in the magyar spirit, the race
would have collapsed." Herbert Hoover, President of the USA (1929-1933)
Amen brother!!!!


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Krisztian Balogh  > wrote:
 
	[clipped for brevity] 

>Hello,
>
>James in Magyar is indeed, Jakab!
>That should end it... I checked many books, that is what all
>of them said.
>

Krisztian:
	I do not doubt the books said James in Hungarian in Jakab.
I was merely reporting a real life instance of the name James that
I found in Hungarian: a man with the name James who doesn't like to
be called: Jimmy, Jim, Imre, Immi, or anything else evenly remotely
close, except: Jamesz pronounced as it is in his case:
	/JA mesz/ phonetically as we pronounced it in Hungarian,
	/YUH mes/ pronounced phonetically in it's Hungarian form
	          in ENGLISH.
	We called him Jamesz ba'csi but he preferred Jamesz and
he's as old as my dad, mid-sixties, which I always thought was
cool, that a man in his sixties preferred to be called Jamesz
without the "respect-showing title": ba'csi.  To the best of my
knowledge he was born in Hungary, not here in the US, so obviously
there exists some form of James other than Jakab in Hungary.
	If what you say is true then how do you explain the difference
between James and Jakab.  <grin>

Killing some time,
Mike.  :)
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1) In the classic episode Let That Be Your Last Battlefield,
where was the shuttle craft stolen from?

A) Enterprise
B) Star Base 1
C) Vulcan
D) Star Base 4

2) How many people did the original Enterprise have?

A) 1012
B) 430
C) 450
D) 150

3) In the classic episode The Ultimate Computer, what were
the names of the four starships the M-5 unit nearly
successfully defend against?

A) Enterprise, Constellation, Republic, Excalibur
B) Hood, Constitution, Lexington, Enterprise
C) Lexington, Excalibur, Hood, Potemkin
D) Bismarck, Repulse, Saratoga, Yorktown

4) What ship did Kahn steal in Star Trek II: The Wrath of
Kahn?

A) Enterprise-C
B) Bozeman
C) Botany Bay
D) Reliant

5) How many episodes did the classic Star Trek go though
before cancellation?

A) 100
B) 59
C) 79
D) 130



6) What classic character was rescued in the Star Trek: The
Next Generation episode Relics?

A) Cap. James T. Kirk
B) Ambassador Spock
C) Cap. Montgomery Scott
D) Admiral Leonard McCoy

7) In the classic episode The Enterprise Incident, what
enemy border was being crossed?

A) Borg
B) Klingon
C) Tholian
D) Romulum

8) What flavor of tea did Captain Pikard like in Star Trek:
The Next Generation?

A) El Grey
B) Apple Spice
C) Lemon
D) Unsweetened

9) What was the first ship that Riker was offered the
command to, in Star Trek: The Next Generation?

A) Hood
B) Drake
C) Aries
D) Pagh

10) What class is the Star Ship Voyager in Star Trek:
Voyager?

A) Nova
B) Constitution
C) Intrepid
D) Ambassador



11) What kind of pet did Lt. O'Brien keep on the Enterprise?

A) fish
B) spider
C) dog
D) snake

12) What was the name of the ship that Commander Riker
commanded against the Enterprise in the Star Trek: The Next
Generation episode Peak Performance?

A) Enterprise-B
B) Bozeman
C) Hathaway
D) Enterprise-C

13) What ship did Sulu command in Star Trek VI: The
Undiscovered Country?

A) Saratoga
B) Enterprise-A
C) Excelsior
D) Enterprise

14) What will be the serial number of the next Star Ship
Enterprise?

A) NCC-1701-H
B) NCC-1701-D
C) NCC-1701-E
D) NCC-1702

15) What episode did Kirk and crew have to destroy an one
cell animal?

A) Operation-Annihilate!
B) The Immunity Syndrome
C) Balance of Terror
D) Spectre of the Gun





16) What is different about the Defiance's equipment list on
Star Trek Deep Space Nine?

A) reflector shields
B) trans warp drive
C) cloaking device
D) no self destruct device

17) What city did they travel back to in the Star Trek IV:
The Voyage Home?

A) San Diego
B) San Francisco
C) Oakland
D) Philadelphia

18) What was wrong with Q in the Next Generation episode
Deja Q?

A) blind
B) powerless
C) limbless
D) dead

19) What race evacuated Deep Space Nine?

A) Klingons
B) Cardasens
C) Earth men
D) Romulems

20) What was the main objective in Star Trek VI: The
Undiscovered Country?

A) intergalactic  peace
B) murder of Kirk
C) save the whales
D) reincarnation of Spock

21) In the Next Generation episode The Most Toys, who did
Kivas Fajo kidnap?

A) Lt. Camn. La Forge                                   C)
Lt. Camn. Data
B) Dr. Crusher
D) Cap. Pikard
22) What were names of the ships, other than Enterprise,
used in Star Trek IV?

A) Republic and Repulse
B) Yorktown and Columbia
C) Saratoga and Yorktown
D) Yamato and Odyssey


23) What color did the science department on the original
Enterprise were?

A) gold
B) blue
C) red
D) silver

24) What kind of ship was the ship Kobayashi Maru, from the
test at the beginning of Star Trek II: The Waft of Kahn?

A) Third class neutronic fuel carrier
B) Dreadnought class starship
C) Third class military personal carrier
D) Class one starbase shuttlecraft

25) How was Commander Sonack killed in the movie Star Trek:
The Motion Picture?

A) phaser strike
B) an accident in engineering
C) transporter accident
D) Vulcan death grip

26) What was the name of the first starship the Riker
served?

A) Enterprise-D
B) Hood
C) Potemkin
D) Pegasus




27) Who was Riker's first commanding officer?

A) Cap. Paul Rice
B) Cap. Jonathan DeSito
C) Cap. Eric Pressmen
D) Cap. Jaun-Lac Pikard

28) Who did Data crete in the Star Trek: The Next Generation
episode The Offspring?

A) Lore
B) Soong
C) Lal
D) Maddax

29) What organ in Pikard, in the Next Generation, is
artificial?

A) heart
B) stomach
C) brain
D) eyes

30) What city was Mr. Sulu born in?

A) Chicago
B) Philadelphia
C) San Francisco
D) Dallas

31) What caused the wormhole in Star Trek: The Motion
Picture?

A) photon torpedo detonation
B) red lining the transporter
C) engine antimatter imbalance
D) static warp field

32) What race mixer in the chief of engineering in Star
Trek: Voyager?

A) Klingon/Terrain                               C)
Romulum/Vulcan
B) Romulum/Cardadian                         D)
Terrain/Batazoid
33) What game did Data excel at in the Next Generation
episode The Royal?

A) roulette
B) back jack

C) five card stud
D) craps

34) How many Stella Mudds did the leave Harry Mudd at the
end of the classic episode I, Mudd?

A) 430
B) 560
C) 500
D) 400

35) What is Ambassador Spock working to try to reunify?

A) Bajons and Cardinass
B) Klingons and Romlumen
C) Trills and Feringie
D) Romulems and Vulcans

36) What was the color of the alarm according to the video
play back in the classic episode Court-Martial?

A) double red
B) green
C) red
D) yellow

37) What kind of circuitry does the Voyager have in Star
Trek: Voyager?

A) biogenic
B) dual tronic
C) isolinar
D) phase pulse




38) What sport does Captain Sisco and his son like in Star
Trek: Deep Space Nine?

A) football
B) soccer
C) baseball
D) table tennis

39) Why was Ensign Ro Laren court-martialed?

A) will full destruction of the star ship Wellington
B) disobeying orders that lead to the death of eight members
of the away team
C) attempted murder of her commanding officer
D) insubordination

40) What was the name of the nuclear powered ship from Star
Trek IV: The Voyage Home?

A) Lexington
B) Saratoga
C) Enterprise
D) Bismarck

41) What was the Romlumen betending to be in Star Trek: The
Next Generation episode Data's Day?

A) Star Fleet Admiral
B) Vulcan Ambassador
C) Enterprise crew member
D) President of the United Federation Plants

42) What planet did they go to retrieve Spock's brain in the
classic episode Spock's Brain?

A) Earth
B) Signa Draconis VI
C) Betazad
D) Signa Draconis IV




43) What ship were they on to begin the movie Star Trek
Generations?

A) Enterprise-A
B) Enterprise-C
C) Enterprise-D
D) Enterprise-B

44) What was Lt. Ilea's home planet from Star Trek The
Motion Picture?

A) Delta 4
B) Vulcan
C) Q-Nous
D) Earth

45) Who did Kirk replace as commanding officer of the
Enterprise in Star Trek The Motion Picture?

A)  Montgomery Scott
B)  Will Decker
C)  Leonard McCoy
D) Matt Decker

46) Who command the star ship Exeter in the classic episode
The Omega Glory?

A) Commodore Matt Decker
B) Captain Ron Tracy
C) Commodore Bob Wesley
D) Captain Harris

47) What was V-Ger from Star Trek The Motion Picture?

A) Klingon Star Ship
B) code name for the Epsilon Nine Space Station
C) Voyager VI space probe
D) Federation Star Ship




48) Why did Pikard go Star Base 515 in Star Trek: The Next
Generation episode Samaritan Snare?

A) being removed from command of the Enterprise
B) highly classified meeting with Star Fleet Command
C) get his artificial heart replaced
D) get his left arm replaced

49) Where would you go on the Enterprise-D if you got the
following clue:

      "What the future can hold no one can know, but forward
we look and forward we go"?

A) Ten Forward Lounge
B) Battle Bridge
C) Main Engineering
D) Captain's Mess

50) What speed was the Enterprise going when the wormhole
was created in the movie Star Trek The Motion Picture?

A) warp nine
B) warp seven
C) warp one
D) sub light factor nine





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