Phil,

Do you know that it is illegal to make any type of transactions within
Hungary with any currency other than the Hungarian Forint?  USD is not
the Hungarian currency!  Please refer to prices in HUF, inflation is not
as astronomical that such prices would lose value in a month.

Thanks,

Zoli

On Mon, 22 May 1995, Phil Dietrich wrote:

>  Apartment for rent in Pest, IX district very close to the Nagyvarad ter
> and #3 metro line. It is a sixth floor apartment in a modern bulding. It is
> 46 quarter meters. Has kit,dining area,living room,bedroom-study,toilet,
> bathroom, balcony front and back. Phone, washer, hot water heat, and
> furnished. Available about early to mid-July 1995. Rent is $325 USD per
> month.
>

*  4:00 PM 06/04/95 SUNDAY      HUNGARIAN EX FOREIGN MINISTER'S VISIT
********************************
Rutgers University Hungarian Institute
American Hungarian Foundation
Szent Laszlo Church
Magyar Reformed Church
HAAC Magyar Torteneti Tarsasag
Fiatal Magyarok Amerikai Egyesulete
presents on the 75th anniversary of the signing of the TRIANON Treaty

Ge'za Jeszenszky's talk :

MAGYARORSZAG 1995-ben
ESE'LYEK E'S VESZE'LYEK

RUTGERS STUDENT CENTER
Room 411 AB
126 College Ave, New Brunswick, N.J.

donations : $6 or $4 for students and retired persons



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*          06/02/95                     CONFERENCE
****************************************
 The AMERICAN HUNGARIAN EDUCATORS ASSOCIATION will  hold  its  20th
 annual conference in Montreal, Canada, June 2-4.
 Those interested in presenting a  paper should contact
        Eniko  M.  Basa
        707 Snider Lane
        Silver Spring  MD
        phone: (301)384-4657
        Internet: 
 as  soon   as  possible.   For   more  details,
 particularly on  logding,  etc.  contact
         Hungarian  Chair
         U.  of Toronto
        21  Sussex  Ave.
        Toronto,
        Ont.  Canada  M5S  1A1.
 All academic subjects, information on teaching and  research resources
 will  be welcome.  Average length  of presentation is  30 minutes.
 Traditionally papers  are presented in English,  but contributions
 in Hungarian are also accepted.



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* 7:30 PM 06/03/95                      TANCHAZ
****************************************

   June 3, 1995               Tanchaz

                             Gypsy Camp
                             3265 Motor Ave.
                             Los Angeles, CA.  90034

                             Teaching- Dances from Mezoseg
                                          7:30-9:00
                             Dance Party- 9:00-12:00

                             No experience necessary
                             No partner needed

                     Information: Debbie Rand (310) 202-9024



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*  6:30 PM 05/30/95 TUESDAY             LECTURE ABOUT TRIANON
****************************************
The Washington D.C. Hungarian community presents
on the 75th anniversary of the signing of the TRIANON Treaty

Professor Ka'lma'n Magyar's  talk about the Trianon treaty (1920)

 Wesley Theological Seminary
 4500 Massachusetts Avenue N.W.
 Washington, D.C.



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Tomek Jankowski writes:
>
> I mentioned before that "Serwus" was commonly used among older Poles,
> and someone since has asked whether it's used in the former Habsburg-
> controlled areas of Poland; well, it's very probable that this term
> diffused out of Galicia (the Polish-speaking areas of the Habsburg
> realm),

      Servus is also very commonly used in Slovakia.  Since Latin was
for a long time the official language of the multi-national Hungarian
state, I suspect many other latin-derived terms have survived and it
is not due to just one area spreading them.


    Jan George Frajkor                      _!_
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Scott Prinster wrote:

>Robert Hetzron:  "...pidgins are impoverished languages, used by
>different language communities as a compromise for communication..."
>...
>For those of us who prize international relations, this might be seen as an
>improvement, rather than a compromise.


You have to be joking!  How can you say that a language that is created
on the moment, and which has no grammer rules, a vocal of only a few
words, and which exists for lack of a better solution, is an improvement?
And why do you assume Robert Hetzron doesn't prize international relations
because he recognizes that pidgins are impoverished languages?  PC has it's
place I suppose, but let's not call nighttime morning just because
nighttime has a selfesteme problem due to lack of sunlight.  Folks of the
PC persuasion seem to have trouble pointing out deficiencies in a
cultural context, and it doesn't make sense!  Would you call a student
who regularly scores in the 70's despite his best efforts, numerically
challenged?

Pidgins are a compromise in language created because of an immediate need
for communication.  Let's not glory scotchtape-and-paper-clip solutions
to problems as better than well planned solutions.

Paul Gelencser
Slayer of the PC
Vanquisher of the Rediculous

Paul Gelencser:  "How can you say that a language that is created
on the moment, and which has no grammer rules, a vocal of only a few
words, and which exists for lack of a better solution, is an improvement?"

I believe that language is a means to an end -- that end being human
relationship -- and not an end in itself.  How that comes to be interpreted
as "PC" I can't imagine.

Peace --
Scott

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Sandor,

>PS. It does not bother me, that in hungary, the police cars have bilangual
>signs, but it bothers me, that POLICE is written on the top with large letters
,
>and Rendorseg written on the bottom with small letters.

E1n is, Sandor, e1n is.

Paul Gelencser

Scott:

>I believe that language is a means to an end -- that end being human
>relationship -- and not an end in itself.  How that comes to be interpreted
>as "PC" I can't imagine.

Typically, but not exclusively, PC types defend all characteristics of minority
 groups
or of new ideas as being by their nature better than the established or the
 majority.
The impression I got from your post was that you too were declaring that the ne
w
 language
which exists in the pigeon is better than the old, horroble, established
 language in the
old and horrible, established society.

I still don't see how a makeshift pigeon language can be better than a fully
 developed
language, but I do understand your point about valueing relationships, and
 thereby
appreciating pigeons.

Paul

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>
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>Email:  

What is the latest on allowing advetisement on the net?  My understanding is
that it is not allowed as a matter of custom and agreement.

Paul Gelencser

Susanna:

>I tink it is a disgrace! Even to talk about oit as a new
>language!!!!! Hungarian is such a unique language any awful distortion as
>such is criminal. I suggest we spend our energy on preserving the
>language as it was meant to be and correct the people who use such

I'm with Zsuzsa.  Hungarian is a beautiful language, and those in favor
of allowing, or even forcing, it to die should be ashamed of themselves.

Paul Gelencser

Jan George Frajkor may well be right about the multiple origins of the term
"szervusz/servus" in the old Monarchy--the term is also extremely common in
Austria itself, although there seem to be fewer variations in pronunciation
than in Hungary.

Be'la